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Help me understand…

Why some people refuse to get vaccinated, but are fine with taking large doses of drugs commonly used for horse de-worming.

Out of 163,000,000 people fully vaccinated, there have been 1,263 COVID deaths…yet anti-vaxxers still refuse to do the easy, safe, and smart thing.

Yep, in just one state, Missouri, there’s been a big jump in calls to the poison control center due to people in distress from taking ivermectin; at least two Mississippians have been hospitalized due to overdosing on the drug…. and 7 out of 10 calls to the center have been for ivermectin.

Ivermectin is also a big problem in Texas…

Ivermectin “tablets are approved by the FDA to treat people with intestinal strongyloidiasis and onchocerciasis, two conditions caused by parasitic worms.”

News flash – COVID is NOT transmitted by parasitic worms. Nor is there ANY credible evidence it protects against COVID or has any meaningful effects.

Yes, there is a research paper based on a meta-analysis authored by several scientists but these “scientists”:

  • didn’t disclose they are members of a group promoting ivermectin;
  • ignored the fact that most of the studies cited had “incomplete information and significant methodological limitations, which make it difficult to exclude common causes of bias,”
  • views were rejected by the leading scientific society focused on infectious diseases; and
  • another meta-analysis rejected the ivermectin-supporters’ “conclusions.”

Oh, and “The few existing higher quality clinical trials testing ivermectin against the disease uniformly have failed to find a positive result. It’s only the smaller, lower-quality trials that have been positive. This is a good indication that the drug probably doesn’t work.”

Double Oh, and the rest of the scientific world isn’t having their BS.

Triple Oh... after internet sleuths raised concerns about plagiarism and data manipulation, the preprint server Research Square withdrew the paper because of ‘ethical concerns’.”

And one more Oh…

Not only is ivermectin very much unproven, it is also dangerous when taken in large doses. From the FDA:

You can also overdose on ivermectin, which can cause nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, hypotension (low blood pressure), allergic reactions (itching and hives), dizziness, ataxia (problems with balance), seizures, coma and even death.

There are multiple reports of people taking horse-level doses of ivermectin;

Again the FDA:

animal drugs are often highly concentrated because they are used for large animals like horses and cows, which can weigh a lot more than we do—a ton or more. Such high doses can be highly toxic in humans.

Moreover, FDA reviews drugs not just for safety and effectiveness of the active ingredients, but also for the inactive ingredients. Many inactive ingredients found in animal products aren’t evaluated for use in people.

Meanwhile, reality is “less than 0.004% of fully vaccinated people had a breakthrough case that led to hospitalization and less than 0.001% of fully vaccinated people died from a breakthrough Covid-19 case…”

So we have knuckleheads overdosing on horse de-worming drug while they refuse to get vaccinated because…why?

They’re suicidal?

No – it’s actually because their “tribe”/”clan’s” views are more important to those individuals than ANYTHING else – including their lives and the lives of their loved ones, babies, grandmothers and spouses.

What does this mean for you?

Belonging to the tribe, and being accepted by the tribe, is the dominant force in the life of anti-vaxxing ivermectin-takers – and no amount of science, marketing, education, compassion or reason is going to get most of them to change.

14 thoughts on “Help me understand…”

  1. I am among those vaccinated people. I took the Vaccine to protect myself, my family, and my loved ones. I do not care about Politics. I believe it is my duty to do what I can do to help in stopping the Virus.

  2. The same goes for “The Big Lie”; there was no insurrection; man has no influence on the climate; they want to take our guns etc..

  3. I and my family own horses among other species of pets. Now when we go to get the dewormer and other veterinary medications, we have to sign a waiver stating we will NOT use it for human use nor any human medical care to prevent or treat any disease. Im all for letting people suffer the consequences for their own conscious (albeit misguided) decisions and actions. Just like most Personal Auto insurance policies will not cover accidents and medical care for the policy holder if they are voluntarily intoxicated or under the influence and that was the cause of the accident, third party and Comp payers should do the same. If you voluntarily refuse the vaccine, and then voluntarily ingest veterinary medication (or other internet snake oil cures…) – youre on your own for the cost and consequences.

    1. Hello Jon and thanks for the comment and suggestion.

      I’d have to agree – all in the name of personal responsibility of course.

      be well – Joe

  4. Thanks for sharing this information. It is beyond me why anyone would take horse pills to ward off covid. The stupidity is astounding to me. I shared your post for others to see on my social media connections.

    1. Thanks Anne – they won’t believe thousands of scientists and the FDA, but some idiot talking head on some obscure YouTube channel.

      And BTW, YouTube and Facebook at culpable as well.

      be well – Joe

  5. All of the papers and fake news on the drugs are credible to some. Doesn’t amazingly credible and consistent data hold any sway with these people. It’s like having Dr. Quackenbush in real life.
    In addition, the negative impact of the vaccine from a report that I read shows that for every 102,00 who received the vaccine, 100 had a reaction and 1 died. There are too many powerful statistics supporting vaccines and none supporting horse pills.

    1. Thanks for weighing in Jeff – unfortunately many don’t understand math – and many more just don’t want to.

      be well – Joe

      1. Joe,
        Easy math. 45,% of Americans in unvaccinated. 98% of ICU patients unvaccinated. No F test or t test needed.

  6. Brought to you by the same same folks who believed that ingesting bleach, or taking anti-malaria medication would protect them from “Fauci’s” COVID-19. Appreciate you posting some good ‘ol horse sense and the danger of following tribe mentality for your health care decisions of which I also shared your post on LinkedIn.

  7. Hi Joe – I’m interested in why you think there is so much reluctance to get the vaccine across so many different groups of Americans?

    1. Hey Jim – good to hear from you.

      There’s a lot of reasons for the reluctance – the awful legacy of mistreatment of Black Americans by our public health services perhaps the most important for members of that community.

      For non-Blacks, there is one over-arching factor.

      People are tribal, and when your tribe believes something, it is incredibly difficult for you to take a different stance. The use of social media to Balkanize us has been very successful in establishing and reinforcing tribal beliefs.

      be well – Joe

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